County’s largest independent signs up to OnTheMarket

| Rosalind Renshaw

A major regional chain, Arnolds Keys, has joined OnTheMarket.

The firm has eight residential branches across Norwich, Norfolk and north Suffolk, and claims to be the largest independent estate agency both in Norwich and across Norfolk.

A partner is Jan Hÿtch, who was a particularly impressive President of the NAEA in 2013/2014, and is also a chartered surveyor.

The firm will now be advertising all of its properties for sale and to rent at OnTheMarket and Rightmove.

It previously listed on Rightmove only.

OTM announced in January that the level of overall support for the portal had risen beyond 6,500 estate and letting agent offices across the UK, an increase of more than 50% compared with the same time last year.

The figure consists of contracted offices and agents who have signed a Letter of Intent to join OTM when total support reaches 7,500 offices – which is OTM’s next major milestone.

Jan Hÿtch said: “We’re confident that OTM will continue to grow throughout 2016 and will build on the excellent performance it achieved throughout last year.

“The website is a great place to display our clients’ properties and we look forward to working with the UK’s only agent-owned, agent-controlled portal.”

OTM boss Ian Springett said: “We welcome this successful and multi-branch firm.

“It’s been a fantastic start to the year at OTM, with record traffic levels achieved in January, record leads for agents and a record number of recruited offices since launch.

“We look forward to welcoming many more new agents throughout 2016 and continuing to expand our property stock and our membership.”

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59 Comments

  1. danny
    March 1, 2016 at 08:29

    Will Mr Springett publicly state that this isn’t one of the £50 no voting rights deals and has no free time attached. To give this away when they are only one portal anyway would be a bit of a shot in the foot.

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    1. Robert May
      March 1, 2016 at 09:49

      Suggest at the same press conference  where you say that you don’t want tax evader landlords as clients?

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      1. danny
        March 1, 2016 at 10:00

        shall we put this to bed Robert. I’m not going to tell my complaince officer about some jokey bravado made in a pub conversation relating to the tax rate handed to google by the chancellor. There …. Done

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        1. Gump
          March 1, 2016 at 10:10

          Danny, over the years Robert has acquired a very particular set of skills, he does not forgive, he does not forget, expect him 😛

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    2. Woodentop
      March 1, 2016 at 10:59

      Danny obviously you not an OTM member, if you were you would know the answer.

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    3. smile please
      March 1, 2016 at 11:09

      Danny, can you find me just 1 agent that has this so called £50 per month deal? You keep speaking about it but i am yet to meet an agent with this deal?

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      1. danny
        March 1, 2016 at 12:28

        IT was bought up by OTM at the newcastle meeting by all accounts.Ask PeeBee, a friend who went told me that it was bought up by them and that the rate is £50 but they get no vote. A sort of unofficial 4th category

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        1. PeeBee
          March 1, 2016 at 12:55

          NO figures were mentioned.

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        2. smile please
          March 1, 2016 at 13:44

          A friend, of a friend of a friend ……. Yep i guess that must confirm it!

          In other news they are giving free BMW’s away down the local dealership – Well so my mate says ….

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        3. Ric
          March 1, 2016 at 14:41

          haha funny, danny and his £50 theory! When you said friend danny…… I can only assume you meant PeeBee has a friend 🙂 (sorry…….I’m only being a numpty danny!!)

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    4. Chrispy
      March 1, 2016 at 11:50

      Just had a look at them and they seem to do a load of advertising on RM, will they be dropping it all to support OTM?

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    5. fluter
      March 1, 2016 at 13:55

      Thought you “couldn’t be *****” Danny? But there you are ******** about the same old thing yet again. Please, give it a rest, there’s a good Danny Boy!

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  2. Fred Jones
    March 1, 2016 at 09:27

    The truth is, you will not really know the position of OTM for another year or so, due to the fact that they are bringing on many agents through offering zero or near zero listing fee’s.

    Only when agent are paying the full listing price will you know if they are sticking with OTM, my guess is that many agents like myself will drop them at the time fees change to the full rate.

    if anyone thinks they’re not expanding now, you should just wait for the drop!

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    1. RealAgent
      March 1, 2016 at 10:17

      So Fred, you are paying this mythical zero or near zero listing fee contract and you want to cancel it, but are moaning because you are being held to a term …in this zero or near zero contract??….. wow thats tough.

      Would you care to add any other of the propaganda comments like how much the CEO is paid or the fact that adverts for OTM have appeared in Country Life?

       

       

       

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      1. Fred Jones
        March 1, 2016 at 14:36

         

        Get a life; I made a comment on whether OTM will have the same number of agent in a year or so, not a complaint with regard to me being with them for a year? 

        It’s just a fact.

         

         

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  3. albere billachip
    March 1, 2016 at 09:32

    Fred if you are intending to leave OTM it is presumably because you are not satisfied with the leads generated and are only sticking with them due to the low fees currently being offered – why stay with a product you’re clearly not happy with…I’m sure that Z welcome you back at a similar fee to what you pay OTM…or it that you’re not an agent at all?

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    1. Simon Chan
      March 1, 2016 at 09:36

      zoopla are are giving out £50 contracts?!?!?!!?

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      1. Digital Expert
        March 1, 2016 at 10:06

        Zoopla aren’t a mutual who guarantee early adopter rates won’t be bettered by Johnny Come Lately’s.

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      2. Ric
        March 1, 2016 at 14:44

        Zoopla are offering less than £50 and pick a timescale to fix it for!

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        1. Digital Expert
          March 1, 2016 at 17:21

          1, I highly doubt that

          2, They can do what they like – they haven’t made a written in guarantee within contract that no later joiner will have an improved rate

          3, Zoopla works

           

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    2. Fred Jones
      March 1, 2016 at 09:51

      I have already asked to leave OTM but they say it’s a fixed term contract and wont play ball, and I am already with Zoopla.

      you are clearly with OTM and my guess is you pay the full rate now?

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      1. albere billachip
        March 1, 2016 at 10:09

        Yes Fred i’m with OTM and happy with progress being made and the implications that brings within i’d guess about 18 months or so…..i’m just surprised at someone who is with OTM and bound by a fixed term contract, who would rather “Ratner” the product than support it.

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        1. Fred Jones
          March 1, 2016 at 14:43

          Simple the product is doing nothing for me so it doesn’t stack up and it was simply a fact!

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          1. PeeBee
            March 1, 2016 at 15:24

            Just humour us… how many properties are you currently advertising via OTM?

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            1. Fred Jones
              March 1, 2016 at 18:24

              Oh no your back to start ranting again!

              Well how many properties are you advertising full stop? It’s not a question of how many due to the fact that almost al of our properties are currently occupied, it’s the lack of feeds from OTM for the ones being advertised.

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              1. PeeBee
                March 1, 2016 at 23:34

                “Oh no your back to start ranting again!”

                H£ll, no – you’re doing such a fantastic job I wouldn’t even dare to try to complete…

                “Well how many properties are you advertising full stop?”

                All of them full stop

                New paragraph

                This isn’t about me – you’re the one b!tching – I’m trying to ascertain why for the benefit of both myself and the EYE readership…

                “It’s not a question of how many due to the fact that almost al of our properties are currently occupied, it’s the lack of feeds from OTM for the ones being advertised.”

                Erm… so ALMOST ALL being UNAVAILABLE means that you have LITTLE OR NOTHING actually AVAILABLE – yes or no?

                Sorry – but you can’t reasonably expect mountains of enquiries if there’s nothing for people to enquire about, Mr Jones.

                You want to bake a cake – then add some ingredients – and be prepared to do some stirring… but NOT of the kind we are seeing from you continually, I would respectfully suggest.

                 

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  4. AverageJoe79
    March 1, 2016 at 10:06

    Is this the best “news” on offer? Someone signing with OTM, or the usual daily “switching” from one to another, or moaning about it. It’s all getting very repetitive and boring. Is there nothing else to report?

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    1. Gump
      March 1, 2016 at 10:31

      Give us an exciting property related story that we can get our teeth into Joe.

      Stage is yours.

      Go

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      1. Gump
        March 1, 2016 at 14:31

        So just a keyboard commando then

         

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        1. Titus Aduxass
          March 1, 2016 at 15:34

          They will be the type of average Joe who complains bitterly about TV or radio programmes –  because they haven’t yet found the OFF button or don’t know how to use it.

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  5. Woodentop
    March 1, 2016 at 10:56

    I said I would be one of those asking questions at the recent OTM meetings. To put to bed immediately. No-one in OTM is being offered £50 subscription. That is a blatant lie. The £50 is being offered by Zoopla.

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    1. Digital Expert
      March 1, 2016 at 11:02

      I’d ask again, Woodentop. You’re mistaken.

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      1. smile please
        March 1, 2016 at 11:11

        Go on DE – Give us just 1 example of an agent paying £50 per month. last count there are nearly 6000 signed up members, all you need to do is provide 1!

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        1. Digital Expert
          March 1, 2016 at 11:16

          The burden of proof is not on me.

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          1. smile please
            March 1, 2016 at 11:36

            Well it is because you are making allegations that cannot be substantiated.

            I have called OTM as i am not a member and i have asked for a £50 per month deal and they laughed and said that they do not offer such a deal.

            So either you are seen as a vicious liar or you need to provide just 1 agent that can back this nonsense story up.

            Comments like yours and Danny’s without proof shows you up for what you really are.

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            1. Digital Expert
              March 1, 2016 at 11:40

              Of course they’d say that. Wait for the sales rep who hasn’t met a target for 6 months to come and visit you.

              I’ve seen a few first hand. They aren’t hard to find – funny how many of the new members are previously 1 portal only agents with nothing to lose.

              Just sayin’

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              1. PeeBee
                March 1, 2016 at 12:59

                “funny how many of the new members are previously 1 portal only agents with nothing to lose.”

                Sorry – talk me through what’s so funny about that?

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                1. Digital Expert
                  March 1, 2016 at 17:12

                  Funny because nobody’s leaving RM or Z for OTM, and those that can join tomorrow are doing it because it’s being given to them – thus utterly devaluing the contract. ‘If it’s free, it ain’t worth nothing.’

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            2. Chrispy
              March 1, 2016 at 11:42

              Nice to see the usual nonsense about OTM

              if you want to find out about these deals call complete in rugby

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              1. smile please
                March 1, 2016 at 12:04

                Do you work for complete?

                Do you have an invoice showing £50 per month?

                if you do and you have i suggest you forward it to the team at Eye as that is a story worth publishing. As opposed to unsubstantiated claims.

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                1. Digital Expert
                  March 1, 2016 at 12:51

                  The only place they’re unsubstantiated are on here – where it would be amazingly bad form to out someone to settle a debate. It’s not their ‘fault’ they’ve signed a free or £50 contract, it’s OTM’s fault and breach that they’ve issued one. Or dozens.

                  You should know better than that.

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                  1. smile please
                    March 1, 2016 at 13:47

                    But that’s it DE – I do not believe these £50 contracts exist, its just people making it up. Even Danny above has said he heard from a friend and Peebee was at this supposed meeting and the issue was not addressed.

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                    1. PeeBee
                      March 1, 2016 at 14:03

                      Erm… not strictly true, smile please.

                      The issue was raised, glossed over but no specific figures were mentioned – unless that is my cloth ears missed them.  Unfortunately those that raised any questions were in the main quiet types and it was extremely difficult to hear them if you were behind.

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                    2. Digital Expert
                      March 1, 2016 at 17:14

                      I don’t believe in New Zealand, but it exists. Whether I’ve seen it for myself or not is an irrelevance.

                      They are out there.

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                    3. PeeBee
                      March 2, 2016 at 13:40

                      “I don’t believe in New Zealand, but it exists.”

                      Jeez – that’s rich coming from someone who chucks any old 5h!te into a conversation and expects us to take it as Gospel.

                      You couldn’t make it up.

                      Oh, on second thoughts…

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  6. Titus Aduxass
    March 1, 2016 at 14:48

    I’m not sadistic by nature but I do get a little shiver of pleasure in watching Danny and his mates undergoing this prolonged Chinese water torture.

    Every bit of good news about OTM sends another drip onto their foreheads. It may take a looooooong time. They will squeal and struggle in protest.  But eventually the drips will do their work.

     

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    1. Gump
      March 1, 2016 at 15:25

      I think you will find the drips are already doing ‘their’ work

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  7. AgencyInsider
    March 1, 2016 at 17:35

    Supposing, just supposing OTM said ‘It’s free to everyone for a year. But you have to come off both RM and Z’. Would it fly?

    Surely, if everyone took that leap, OTM would have critical mass and RM and Z would be left with just their shareholder agents.

    Ducks below parapet…

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    1. Digital Expert
      March 1, 2016 at 17:43

      It’s a fair shout, the only real way it could ever work in the desired way is to let everyone on for free/£50/it’s true value and if everyone did it at once.

      The option for mass action was December 2015 and it never got close to happening.

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    2. Gump
      March 1, 2016 at 17:45

      That’s what they should of done in the first place

      I would join in an instant if they did that and so I feel, would everyone else

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    3. the message
      March 1, 2016 at 17:45

      they should have made it very cheap, no exclusivity clause, built up great inventory and started to work on the traffic. THEN went to destroy the infidels of the duoply. Just such flawed execution it drives me mad. The number of agents alone genuinely doesnt matter, its a site we use for advertising, means it has to have people going, enjoying it and coming back. Punters hate it, clean and fresh means no data or information.

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  8. the message
    March 1, 2016 at 17:39

    great news from OTM today – we were desperate for that overseas part to the site, and I am sure when they took feedback from customers and buyers that was top of the list of what was missing – as far as I can see it was the only gap between their offering and Rightmove.

     

    Thats good enough for me – where do i sign!

     

     

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    1. Digital Expert
      March 1, 2016 at 17:44

      Gibraltar.

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      1. Woodentop
        March 1, 2016 at 23:42

        DE Yep Gibraltar exists and so does New Zealand that’s the difference, they are fact even if you haven’t been there and so is it fact that no-one is being offered £50 to join AM. Those that HAVE POSTED ANTI OTM today haven’t a clue about strategy of AM/OTM as anyone who is a member will immediately see. Member’s understand the reason behind the one portal rule, those out in the cold just haven’t a clue or are on the receiving end. And why would you be on the receiving end because you are the competition.

         

        An opinion on facts you do not know or understand and of course you know better how we should run our business.  As for the rep offering £50 which I heard from a friend of a friend. You’ve done yourself no favours, blatant lie for all to see.

         

        Anyone wanting to join in with these claims is simple enough to sort out who is telling the truth. There is no chance you will post on here who you really are or who you heard it from (as it isn’t happening!) but to help you get out of jail, tell Ross who is offering the £50 and she can do some investigating journalism. Now that would be a story for EYE.

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        1. Digital Expert
          March 2, 2016 at 10:01

          If you’re criticizing those that post on here anonymously, ‘Woodentop’ (one can only presume that isn’t your real name), I’d firstly present your own name, business, and qualification for critiquing everyone else’s perspective.

          I don’t need to know your name to appreciate your perspective, or do I want to know it. This is the point of these boards.

          Everyone can see the aim and strategy from OTM – but everyone except the most entrenched Mutual-Blind can see how poorly it’s been done, to serve the very few and not the vast majority. It’s a joke within the industry, and outside.

          I have personally seen more than a few of the £50 deals. They exist, in much higher numbers than you want to believe. They’re being offered, and accepted daily, and I’d take it up with those that are taking your money and lying to you rather than those that bring you news you don’t want to believe.

          I desperately don’t want to believe the USA are about to elect Donald Trump as President – but guess what?

          If Roz is worth her salt as a journalist she would do the investigative bit herself. It wouldn’t be difficult, it’s an open secret.

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          1. PeeBee
            March 2, 2016 at 13:25

            That last comment, Sir/Madam, is both insulting and condescending to a lady whose contribution to both journalism and the property industry is well documented.

            You are here in her room as a guest – and here you are, acting like the smelly, drunken Uncle that people hide in corners from in order not to become the unwelcome attention of their whiskey-induced blithering at every family get-together.

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            1. Digital Expert
              March 2, 2016 at 13:40

              Excuse me? It is neither insulting, or condescending. Unlike your contemptuous drivel.

              It is an expose waiting to happen. All I’m questioning is why, as it’s vehemently discussed here daily, it hasn’t been officially looked into. Any journalist looking for real exclusives etc would be on this like a rat up a proverbial.

              Once again Peebee, your temper has got the better of you.

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              1. PeeBee
                March 2, 2016 at 13:41

                I beg to differ.

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        2. Chrispy
          March 2, 2016 at 22:21

          Woodentop or should I just call you kn*bhead. How you still think no one is getting a deal is beyond all of us, just wind your neck in and go and sit and wait for the OTM leads phone to ring.

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